Ke Aloha Aina, Volume I, Number 31, 21 Kekemapa 1895 — KA HOOKAHULI AUPUNI. [Na Kamailio ana Mawaena o Mr. Blount a me Mr. Damon] [ARTICLE]

KA HOOKAHULI AUPUNI.

Na Kamailio ana Mawaena o Mr. Blount a me Mr. [Illegible]

(Hoomauia,j N. He. mea hou anei kekahi au i makemake ai i 1 olelo e Mr. Uamon niaWaho ae om au i olelo mn<i ai ? R E ok'lo aku ana ;ns, ua "hanāu Ta au nel. ,1 nu? mannei nei, a he nianao alo|va no hoi no na kan;tka f'!;uvaii, no ka. meiL_ he nui loa, koJakw mau ano maikai. Ta m-ii lakou i ka mnaau a-a o ka -mak'wnake*. ko<» —w.ilf no hinauna i k'.-ia \va, a m«* ka e hiki mai ana s oka onou aku ia lakou imua 'ina lakou e hoomaopopo ana, a malia paha iir lahui 'lakou e i-,m\ mai ana, he lahui man;;olana no lakou, lakou i haawlpio i ko !a ki>u paio ana noka malamn ana i m<»a o Hawuii. Ina niakou e hooniiauao akn ana ia hkou, hf mr'A kioia walr ia no i-t, .oa w.i!*- n<>, a loaa ia lakou kekahi manaolana, i kukulu ia imuK o lakou, e ike ia mai ana lakou me ht + poe kanaka la ma keia mua aku. a ina he mea e w '• kokua no au ia !aku!i o ns poe ojrtf» nar a me na ; 1 iawaii hoopono, ua m ikf'.H3akf. loa aa e hana ia mea. no ka imr-i.ua nana maikai mau mai la!<fj -i i-i u. tii.i rif- \loi.nt; Aui,a he Hawau haah ta no hoi, me u :-:a-iaf) ahha oluoi.i niau, K v. i , e .okua ;ku id lakou \ ■ k'> u '.:uk,i 151 jkua, h f *. nu;a h, t . ' ,«• m j k« iiaiM, ma aoj<' -A<i «n •krm«il:«- e kokua aku ia ilai-u \ A ma tra mea e pih aia ' l k.i haopono rnn na aihana, pp- : '•' , !..k »u kf- hooh-i ! ike ia me !r i k-m-ika ma ko lakou ano ma 1 k t noho laula an? ? ® P U2 manao au o ke kuhi'hewa e ioaa ana, irta e iawe ana !f.tr \\f* ljavvaii a e hookuku aku i nif- ke k ilana o ka 0iao!e) An-;'io-S ,\on, a manao aku op e kul:kt* ,ma nia me kela oiai naf ao!'» i lawa pono ka manawa e ikuponoai oia no kela kulana. }Je hiki ia or ke hookuku ae i ka Hauaii o kf*ia la a me ko k t wj h«- kanalima makahiki Imamua akii nei. Alaila. he mea kupono <)ia ke hookuku ia me kekah; i Inhui e noho nei i keia wa ? P. I*: kau nui ana kona pono maluna o ka m<-a i o!e!o ia h»* iwikiiamoo. i mea e h;ki ke i hana a j>aa pono, n hiki ke ma-l.im-i i ka mea i !oaa iaia, X, \la na mea pili oihana ;t mea e ae ? i' Ae. Aka. he hiki anei ia oe ke olelo ma ke ano laula, he rmo kanaka hoopono ia ? l'. He hiki au ke olelo pela ae. He kumu hooweli hewa anei kekahi maluna o ke kino

O na wahiiie ma k;i aoao u na Huwaii ? K Ua manao au ( ua loaa ka hiki mua d ia inln ma o ka poe haole lopai la. N, Alaiīa, he hiona ohohia kona e hooikaika ae ana c ku, a pela hiau e piha hauoli ai i na anei nei ? " ttr""Ae, aJ? ka mea i like ai pela, he fpau makahiki pokole wale ae nei no> ua nana aku lakou i ka iahyi_k£Qku>-oi lahui alakai nui, Alaila, oia iho maloko o kona puuwai ua piha hauoli, me ka iiianao ua loaa ia ano kuiana maluna ae ia lakou i keia la, N. Aiaila, ua pololei anei ia mau mea a pau ? P. Malia |paha he lahui e mana nui ;\ku ! ana. \« Alailaj e ninau aku ana au ia oe ma |cekahi mea e ae. Ua nohoanei, o Wikon ma ka me kany wahiiie me ke kdki ? P. Aia kana keikikane ponoi i Kalepon'i, aole no ana keiki e ae N, t\ ke noho' pu nei no ia me kanawahiiK-a hiki i keia ia ? P. Ae. Ua lohe wale no, au he mana ikaika kona maluna o ka Moiwahine no na makahiki lr?ihi iōā.. No ka mea. ol l)orninis kan'a kane, he kanaka! nawahwali. ffia. He kānaka! kulana ikaīk4 104 n a' "ua rjaf|."t. r iku iaia nie he mea! hooinalu la. ; N- Oia'i[ok:i l.nna Nui o ka Oih;ma Makai ? | I !S. i;|t wa no.ā'mai ka wa j jinai.no o ke au o ka Moiwahij ne. | N, Ua k,iai ia anei na puka 1 pa 0 ka H-t]e,aiii ? 1 P. Ae, fiela mau no. N. 0«f*! ka I.unakoa Nui o na koa kiiii ? P. () Nowlein a na--\Vil-son hoi i noho LunaXui no ka Oihana Makai, he mau hoa!o> na laua a tiliia no'ka Moiwahint*. N. Ua uoho oia ma ka Halealii ? P. Ud nbho oia rna ka Ha-;le-akalH, pHa ka hoikeia. He !ha!fc noh© |ponoi no koha, he aneane o heokahi mile mai an'ei ,aku. ' N. Aole oe i hoomaiopopo oia a me ohana, ua noho' maoii .ma ka Halealii rtie. ka iMoiwahioe? j P. Aoie, He hale lakou maioko'o ka pa. ! |* N. lr.a js waiho ja aj<u ana ka ninau hobhui aina imia o na kaoaka o V|eia mau mol4upūni, j me ke ano| koho waiwiii ole, I aka, o ke ano koho wa!fe nd, O I ka mea e kbho ana, e ik'e oia i| j ka.heluhelu a me ke kakau. a e alakai ia hbi kona koho ana !mamuli o ke ano kanawāi koho? •bal»ta 0 Ausetera!ia. heaha la|

kou manao rro ka pllī ana 1 ka hoohui aina i kei»i wa? ■ P. Ō ka manao- hooiaio, he manao hooia ia c ulu ae ana, aka, no keia ; wa, ua manae au aole loa e ae' ka.hapanul e koho no ka apono ia mea, aka, e haawi aku i manawa ,no hkou e lipōHōilīoPāi no ia mea, alaiīa, je ae jao iakou, — —N. Pehea la ka "lōihi o ka inanawa kupono au e manah ai ua kupono 6 hiki ai mamuli o iā"TnaīTmānao ana ma keia mau mokupuni? P. Uq manan an—ma—keAupupi Kuikawa e hoomauioihi la aku .ana, e hoi koke mai ana no lakou me ka awiwi loa, Aale o lafo]w makeniake i ke Aupuni Kuikawa, no keia kumu he Aupuni oia i wa ? iho ole ia mai na lakou e koho 1 * aku. Ua ano pololH ioa au e hai aku la ia oe 1 ka mea oiato maoli. 1 ' N. Ma ka/nanawa o keia hookahuli ia ana o ka Moiw:i : hine, ua hoomaopopoia no anei ia mea oia na mokupunie aku? P. Aole. . . N. Aole ioa no kkou i ike iki be mea pīli ia mea, a hiki i ka wa, i pau ai na mea i ka hana ia ? P. Aole lakou i ike. | JSL Alaila, ua pau pono na' j met* a pau loa i ka Hana ia e |ko Honolu'iu nei poe hookahuli j*upuni ? , i'-Ae, kou manaō. e pHi ana no ka manao o na poe Hawaii me ka Aupuni e ku nei, ko lakou hoolo - he aka i na kauoha ? P. Inahealakai a-a maoll kp iako_y ā lakou i paūlele maoli ai, h<? hiki ke hoakoakoa mai he puali kaua ngi e Hahai ana mahope ona, N. £2 mai i ke aupuni e ku ana ? P, Ae. . * N. . Aole paha ou hoihoi ia ano hana mai * j P, Aple, koe wale 10 aia t ka wa o ki pihoihuī loa, ē hoea ae ana no ia mea, a nolaila, ua ao aku au i kekahi puali koa ikaika i hoolimalima ia, no ka mea,, Aole makou i ike, i kekahi wa ka pihoihoi loa, e lilo ana no i kekahi mea ka pomaikai o ia mea, , alaila, hooīilo i mea piiikia. N, ■ Pehea ia ka nui o na koa o ka oukou ..mau uku ana ? P. Hookahi haneri me kanahiku pviu loa. N. O na koa Pukaa, he mea ) maopopo 016 paha ia k e oido |ae. akanae, hehookahi puali 5 j Ehia ia mau pu ? | P. jlie ewaiu a umi paha I mau pu. aka, o ka'hana )akahete. na hoopa.i ia mea ha~ I na iloko o kahi paa. | N. Nolaiia taa kau ike ma-

on v iho, aale he mau pu a na poe Hāwail ? P. Aole. " ' "• :•;*•** N, Aoie he mau . jpu kau poohiwi ? 7 % P. Aoie he nui !oa. "He mau pu raffe!a kakaīkahi ioa ka lakou, a me na pii paiiāpana. '' ■ " A N, Apie ka n J -kau no ka wa hakaka ? — \ P. Aohe o makou manao j hoil*e aku no ta mea i keia ] J ' *-*: f Poalua, Msi % 1895. i - --- • N. E Mr. Pamon, ma ka , manawa o ke Kakau ia ana o ka palapala kue (protest) a ka | Moiwahine ma ka Ia 17 o ,tauuari 1893, a ai e" Ia a me na ua ike e ia maf anei ke Aupuni Kuikawa e ke " Kuhina Aweiika Mr,, S?eveiis ? P, Ma ko'u lioomaopopo, |ua ikeia mai, aka, aole e "Miā % ia'u ke hooiaio īoa pela. t)a lilo anei ke kkmailio ana bu ' me' Motwahine i kēia la, i mea e ' hoakikina ai ia oe i ka hooko [ ana ia hana ? i P. Aoie o'u manao, ua lilo,! ? ia imea hookikina ia'u, r ! N. Ma ka mea e pili aqa ko Mrs, Wilson noho pu ,me ka Moiwahiae, ma keka£f * wahi ,m.amua.ak'if* nei o Icei| oielo hoike, ua manao anei lelo, ua noho oia me ia i.^c w aō? a me ka po? J N. Me he h©a qoho .la ? i P. Ae, me he . mal^niak ; |;, rf aloha la, a hoa nohq hoi/ ' r ' N. Aka, oia e , o|pe| ai i kau waīe jiqa, ma kaj_. ,ma ka Haleaiii. , V I'.Ma ko'u ,iho t o e f moe aia . no me kana .kane inaloko o" ka, Haleakala. ■ \ |' r Ua heiuhelu 1 . pau loa ina mea i hoopaaia, a kē pujna ae nei au, "h^'' hoike paloiei no ia o na iva kamakamaiiio efua mawaena . cP* Mr Blount a mg a\u iho.

V ka pau ana keia o, k§ 2Vt/ . S* M. Damon mau olelo Blount, - A heaha na triea i ike ia ? . _ i . 1, - Ua maopopo ka inoa & ka ohana aana na haaa kahuli aupuni,. j 2« Ua maopopo , pu ana o Stevens ni<e ka pu.aU kaua o ka moku Postcm e k,Q--kua, i ka hookaKuli aup.unU, ■3, Ua īke eia ke Aup^l, Kuika.w«i t; ke Kuhina. AmenSterens, oianw <..ie h%v*ipio o ka i koaa aupuki I ka. o Atr»erika V, 4. A'aiia» ua lilo na . ka, ma u ka han t \_ana a Kuhma. me na Amer.lka ouu luna k nv\i tona. ke kukala kaoa mua" loa ana i ke Aupuni o ka Moiwahine Liliuokalani e !ikē rpe ka hoike a Gresham. !

?Na Kamaihō ana Mawaena g Mr, I-;ibant a me Mr. Torter W. Boyd, ke Kakauolelo a ke Kanikela Amerika ma' Honolulu nei, lune 13, i g93,] (Hoomauia.) Ninau: Mr. Boyd heaha kau oihana ?. ' Pane: _I īa wau maialo oka hsina a kf Kanikela. N Ma ke kukina hea ia"? " " ~T:\ Hēl<ak"auoleīōT\an]ktr !a au, a he Hope Xui ma keia wahi. X. Ma kou Keena Oihana anei ce ma ka la 16 o fanuari, 1893? N P. Ae. N. Ma na alanui anei oe ia !a ? P. Aole, aia waie no i ka auina la ae e kokoke ana i ka manawa o ka halawai ana. N. Mahea ka halawai i kukulu ia ai ? P. Ma ka Halepaiku. N. He mau hoailona ane kekahi 0 ka haunaele ma ,ric alaniii ? Aole loa. N. E holo mau ana no na ōihana lawelawe e like me ka mea maa mau ? P. Ae, pela no a hiki ika wa o ka Halawai Makaainana ana, ka wa a lakou i papani ai i na hale ,no ka hele, ana. N. Ona wahine ame na kamalii ma na alanui e like me ka mea rnau ? P. Ua manao au he kakai - kahi loa na wahine a me na kamalii ma ke alanui. N. He uluku pioo anei kekahi lik«* m»' na hanw hwlhiuna'-l' ' P. AoK aoir a<; ! manae he mea k< kahi oia ano. Aok loa au 1 ike 1 kekahi mea o ia ano. N. Hej m&u hoomaopope ana' anei kekahi no na hana hooha'unae!f: ; koe aku hoi na e piii ana i na hana a k<: Komile o ka Maluhia 5 P. Ma k i'ij mea i hoormiopo j( '■ >- -x iOie !on, \. ' '■ ) k>i u uj<'a makema'k" :.ei < n<>}'., k»-ia, he m»-a ati' j i keKah; hoooihoihoi ai ka mauao 4 o ka lehuiehu. koe wale nohoi na mea i ulu ae mai ka han.a a na Komire o ka Ma* luhi i ? P. He hiki ia u ke olelo aku, aole !oa, H e ma u k> m u hoowe I iweīi anei kekiihi e k'upono ai ma ka i-i\se ana « na pu, a hooweliweii aku 1 ka poe 1 kapa ia he poe '!'< \.ili-i) a'oha z\\\ ? P. Ma ko'u hoomaopopo ana, aole iou no. N, Ua.noho a-nei oe iloko o ka Haiawaii Makaainana? P. Ae. N. ■Me he mea makaikai la? P. Ae. N. Ehia-ua poe kanaka au ,1 koho wale aī malaiia ? P. Ple hiki au ke oielo ae,

mai ka 'umikumamakahi a k& umikumamalua liānen'. N. He.nui na Pukiki malaila ? ' ■ .. ■ ■~ ■; . P, Aole e hiki ia'u ke pane aku, aoie~au i hoomaoj>op;o. N. Heaha kau hoomaopopo i ke kumu nui o kela ha■kwai makaainana a-na, mai kau mea J ike £ iUeffe-ai4tofi* F. Oka mea mua ka lohe |ana Tka hoike a ke Kemite : umikumamakolu, alaiīa, nee aku ana a lawe i na lieehina no ka hoomalu ana i na kanaka 'a me na waiwai o na poe kupa ' o na mokupuni. opopo ai ia lakou, i ke ano o ka hoomalu ana i na kanāka a me na waiwai o ria poe kupa ? P, Ua hoomaopopo au, oia no kue an i aku i ka hoololi ana ae o ke Kumukanawai, N. Ua hoomapopo anei oe, ua hana ia ia mea, il&ka hookahuli ana i ka Moiwahine, a kukulu hou ae i aupuni hoiu ? P. Aoie ia o ko'u hoohiaopopo ana ia manawa. N. Aole anei \ hoomaopopo ia eka iehuiehu, e like me ka mea hiki ia oe ke hooiliiii mai na pohai kanaka mai ? P. Ke oleio nei au o na hoopuka ana o ka hoohui,aina oia ko iakou 'makemake, oia ko lakou manao, aka, inā o keia haiawai ko ia manao, aole au i ike. I N. Aohe mau manao iho i ike ia maloko o ke anaina, e like me na mea hiki la oe ke ohi mai. e hoomaojx>po ana i ka manao io maoli/ he hoouiu hana keia no ka hoopau i ka Moiwahine, a e kukulu hou ae i Aupuni hou ? . P. Aole ioa. N. Ua. iohe anei oe i k|ekahi halawai ana a ke Komke o ka Maluhia* mamua o ktla ha lawai ana ? P. Ua lohe no au, he ;7iau jhalawai aku no ka !akou:marnua, a he hoike no hoi ku Jakou e hana ai. i N. Uh lohe anei oe, | la ke ane; o ia mea ? j P. Aole lua, a»?le nu au i ; manaoio, ua lohe kekahi nipa e ! ae, ; . ! ■ A . Mahope iho o .ka halawai makaainana, heaha kn hana aka ? Ua hele .hou anei lakou i ka hana i ke!a;auwiaa la ? | I J , Ua .manao au, ua iju:ie 110 iakou. Aua manao no au. ua wehe ia na halekuai. X, A.ole anei oe i ike ? , .i J Aoie; aka, u kou mapao la i kt-iu wa. Ama kekahi |nanao iioi, i a n.aupopo loa ia'u, ua wehe h"U iio lakou i ko; lakou mau wahi hana. N. Ua mmiao anei oe; o keia iehuiehu i he|e ai i keia halawai, a mahope ydu nui i : ka heie, a pau nui i ka hoi i ;ka lakou mau hana. Ua loaa a|nei - - [

ia lakou kekahi manao, c hoo-; Ipauia ana ka Moiwahine naa kekahi la ir*ai ?. P Aole o'u manaoio 'uia noonoo lakou i kela mea. O na mea a pau loa, ua waihoia aleu ma ka lima o ke Komite. tTa haawi aku ka halawai makaalnana i na poe i hoomanaia he um ik «ii! a makolu, —e —hana aku, ē like me ka p'ono i ike ai eia ka pono. A _oia_poe Wale no he umikumamakolu ka i ike ia mea pela ka*u hoomaopōpo akiu- — N. Aka, aole anei i hoikeia ae, oka hana aia poe e hana ai, oīa hui kd !idiia pouo loa a lakou e manao ai, oia no ka hiki ana aku i ka hoopau !oa ana i ka Moiwahine ? P Aole paha i hala aku mawaho oka mea a lakou i hooholo kue ai i ka hana a ka Moiwahine ma ka Poaono mamua aku. N. Ua'hoomaopopoia anei ia manao, o kona ano, T>ia ka hoopau ana laia 4ma ka hoike kue ana aku i Kana hana ? P. Ae; oia kou manae ana, oia no kekahi, a i ole ia, o :Kona noho no ma ka Nohoulii, malalo nae ona hoohaiki ana.

N, He mau ootoku haunaele a»ei kekahi, i ka wa i hooleleia māi ai o na pualikoa i kela ahiahi, i oi ae mamuao kā manao i ulu ae no ka ike aria i ka hooleleia ana mai o na koa ? P. - Ae; ua oi ae nd ina i hooleleia mai na pualikoa no Ika paikau ana. . N. He nui-ane-i na kanaka' ma ka uwapo i ka wa o lakou i hooleleia mai ai ? P. au i manao pela # Aole no lakou i ike, a hiki i ka wa i lele m'ai āi. O ke kiko-| waena hoi kekahi i kahea maij j ia m<«kou a nina.u mai, no keaha| |i hooleleia mai ai na pualikoa] 'O ka P>o-,ton iuka nei. , j j N. l'a he-omaopopoia anei! . i hooleieia mai lakou mamuli q : ke koiia aku e ke' Komiee o ka ;Ma!uhU? ; : P. Ae. oia no. , i N. No keaha i makemake |ai ke Konnie o ka Maluhia ia lakou e lele mau ina h$ , maluihia loa na mea a pau ? P. Ua ike oo . lakou ika lakou m<jH e haua aua trja-k-iu iakou e hcsa, mai ana k<kahi piukia a o.kekuhi kue ma> no da mea a iakou i h(x>sa],i £ |i. N. Nolaila, ua hoomaopopo eia anei, e hke me.ka hiki t ia oe k«: koihili a)ai, mai na poe h«»f>huiai|ia ame ,na poe kue hut,huiai|ia tnai; oia.hoi, o kela mau puaiikoa, ua hui launa pu lakou ma kela kumuhana ake Komiie 9 ka Maluhia ? P. A#; oia nq.

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